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I have 38 baby rats. I was wondering if someone would be interested in any of them. I hold every single one of them everyday and they are all healthy. They are still pretty young so it will be a waiting game. I have some irish (boys and girls) black selfs and i believe some light eyed tans. I live in Texas by the way. I will update the pictures if anyone is interested!
 

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actually... most of them are snake food. but hey would you rather me feed the pretty and the more common looking to my snakes? I just thought i would see if someone wanted to get started or add to their collection from someone who actually cares about their rats rather than a pet store. and yes i do care about my rats but i also understand whos at the bottom of the food chain. i spend ALOT of quality time with all of my babies. So if youre wondering if im adding to the cluttered animal rescuers rooms..im not. I came to this forum to make friends and talk about rats and offer some sweet babies other than jsut selling them to snake owners.
 

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stha, this is a pet forum, please don't come on here and show us pictures of rittens and then tell us that they're snake food.

We all understand the circle of life and what most rats are 'for'. The forum is us escaping from that world to talk to others who like rats as pets.
 

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These 2 litters arent snake food. which is why i showed them....i wouldnt be like oh hey would anybody want to have one...then when asked about them be like ohh oops snake food.
 

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not out of those babies. Those were bred for quality. hence the reason there isnt just plain looking ones.
 

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you dont have to have pedigree rats for quality. maybe you shouldnt be such an asshole. this forum sucks. very few people on here are actually nice about what anyone has to say. seriously yall need to get the broom stick out of your ass or something. Those of you who did comment nicely thank you very much. by the way you dont insult me but yall should really try new tactics about how to talk to people.
 

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First of all no one I haven't seen anyone insulting you. All people are saying is that they don't want to see pictures of baby rats who are going to be eaten. I also used to own snakes and I have the deepest respect for both creatures. I understand that "these" babies are not going to be eaten, its just the way you said it (which gave the impression that these where the ones that would aslo be snake food) I'm sorry if anyone has offended you; However, you also have offended some people here saying what you did. I really do hope you understand, alot of people on this forum are here to give advice and opinion, theres no need to say "get the broom stick out of your ass" thats just lowering yourself.
 

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I hate to break it to you, but if you were to make a post like this on any other forum you would be flamed before you could blink. The people here are VERY nice and VERY tolerant of new rat owners, or people trying to learn.

A rat is not 'higher quality' just because it has 'nice markings' or isn't 'plain', a higher quality rat comes from long established lines careful monitored for any genetic flaws. This isn't done to be superior in any way, but to improve pet rats. Too many get tumors at a young age, myco flairups and other preventable hereditary diseases.

Believe me, I wasn't trying to attack you, I was simply asking questions because I wasn't getting a clear picture from what you had said.

With all that said, please try to watch your language, we're a friendly forum with some younger members who don't need to see that.
 

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In my opinion, colors and markings don't matter ONE BIT. It's temperament and their little personality that makes them special. And all are unique, just like people! I had a very "plain" rat with no special markings or anything and she was the best baby in the world! Not trying to offend ANYONE here, just saying, plain isn't always bad.
 

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Our two oldest girls are from the snakefood bin. We bought them over two years ago now. They are the most well behaved and gentle girls we have, but one is also the most unhealthy. Feeder rats around here also seem to have a high instance in undesirable personality traits, like aggression, shyness, aloofness, etc. Not to mention bad health. We lucked out when we got two that are still nice to this day. We've spent over $600 on one for tumor surgeries and other vet bills.

Quality has nothing to do with markings and looks. Jazmyne, the one who has had and does have tumors now, is a plain hooded rat born of breeding in which quantity, not quality, was the goal. But we still consider her to be a very high quality pet. Because of her personality.

A dumbo we have, which some would consider fancy because of her ear set, is only a quality pet because of her temperment, gentleness, and personality. It has nothing to do with how she looks and her health is not the best either. She has myco flareups and possibly had a stroke last summer.

One rat we had, Astrid, was born from a breeder who bred the wrong way. Not for personality and longevity, but for looks. We never considered her to be a high quality pet because her health is good, but her personality isn't that great. She's very aloof and doesn't really care much about people. She reacts some, but for the most part would rather be left to her own devices.

Quality when it comes to rats is not in how they look, but in their longevity and how they respond to their owners!

This kind of response coming from fellow rat owners.. honestly it should show you what you should be breeding for. You should be glad to have peoples input on what they look for in a rat. It gives you something to strive for. Personality and longevity should be your first consideration in a breeding, not how the babies will look.

There is nothing in these above replies that merrits any kind of language or reaction that you gave. Believe me, on other forums, you'd have been banned or very very horribly flamed. This was nothing compared to what you could have gotten elsewhere.
 

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yes, i understand where you are coming from 100% on how it offends you but i love my snakes and you have to understand my point to. I did not mean these specific babies will be fed. So i am sorry for any misunderstading. All of my babies have wonderful attitudes. The pedigree means nothing to me...really. I got into this as pure snake food but i started enjoying playing with my babies and interacting with them and there are snake food mothers and there are pet mothers. You know it happens snakes are in fact top of the food chain but on the other hand these are from the pet mothers. i never intended to make any of you think that these babies were going to be snake food. Which is why i was wondering if anyone was interested in them. liek i said pedigree or no pedigree its the temperment of the rat that counts. Personally i could never feed my 'pet' rats to my snakes.
 

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Seriously not trying to cause an argument but I'm curious how you distinguish between pet rats and feeder rats. I agree with you about the snake, they are just as much a special pet and they deserve to be treated the best way you can treat them... and if that means rats as food, then that's how it has to be... BUT my actual question is how can you breed rats for snake food and whatever and watch them grow up and stuff but then watch them be eaten? Not saying there's anything wrong with it... I just couldn't EVER do that, whether they were originally bred for pets or for food.
 

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no no no more argueing. To be completely honest its tough and i usually have to walk away. I usually choose on their temperments and coloring and health. I also sell/give away some. Liek i said its very tough but i also love my snakes.
 

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I understand. That's life. We all must deal with it. I have a friend who has 2 snakes and they can be wonderful pets. I love all animals, no matter mammal, reptile, whatever. I don't mean to be causing any arguments. I know you must feed your snakes their natural food, which is mice, rats, etc. I just know I'd never be able to watch a little rat that I watched grow up be eaten! YIKES :( I'm a wimp though. I'd cry so hard. I understand that the snakes are your pets just the same as my pets are my pets and you do what you must do.
 
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