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Someone on goosemoose is looking for reviews. Thought I would see if anyone has adopted from this rattery.

There are a lot of red flags on the site, but she wants to know an opinion from someone who has dealt with them.
 

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I haven't even heard of them and I know pretty much all the breeders in Toronto o_O Does "Masterpiece Rats" have a website? It almost looks like it doesnt exist!
 

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I always find the word "adoption" misleading, but I know it is what breeders use. If you are paying for an intentionally bred rat, you are not adopting.

That being said I would especially avoid a breeder that had no reputation and no online presence. If the poster is hellbent on trying this rescue they should at least ask to see the premises, because right now they know nothing about the conditions the rats are kept in.
 

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I've never heard of them and googling didn't bring up anything.
You might wanna ask in https://www.facebook.com/groups/OntarioRodentBreeders/ (it is for all of Canada)

I always find the word "adoption" misleading, but I know it is what breeders use. If you are paying for an intentionally bred rat, you are not adopting.
Well by definition adoption is the right term :)

Adopt from: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/adopt
: to take by choice into a relationship; especially : to take voluntarily (a child of other parents) as one's own child


While rescues do also use the term adoption, it is still under the same definition of taking into your family basically. So there is nothing misleading about a breeder using the term.

If the poster is hellbent on trying this rescue they should at least ask to see the premises
No legit, responsible breeder would let someone see their premises IMO. It is far too dangerous and risky. You could carry all sorts of stuff in on your clothing or being. If you own rats or have been a pet store lately even. Taking that chance and putting your entire colony at risk would be so irresponsible. Every single legit breeder I know has a closed rattery for this very purpose. People have lost rats because of things like that. A closed rattery is not a red flag.
Black Wolf Rattery has a great blog post on it.
http://rat-breeder-confessions.blogspot.com/2015/03/closed-ratteries-why-this-isnt-red-flag.html?m=0

They should though be open and honest and willing to answer any questions you have.
 

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I know nothing about ratteries in north america so I cant help there, but the poster could ask for some photos of the breeding area and the conditions etc? Honest and good breeders wouldnt have any problems with showing people photos..

And also, i think the term adoption is right too. I think it should be used in all cases where you take a living thing under your wing, so even if you purchase the animal its still 'adopting', rather than only the rescues being adoptees :) You still pay some fee to rescue from some rescues anyways, to cover their food and past health costs and help the rescue run, so youre still paying in that case too.


P.S. Oh no I only just realised that the original post was from 2007.... :/
 

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No legit, responsible breeder would let someone see their premises IMO. It is far too dangerous and risky. You could carry all sorts of stuff in on your clothing or being. If you own rats or have been a pet store lately even. Taking that chance and putting your entire colony at risk would be so irresponsible. Every single legit breeder I know has a closed rattery for this very purpose. People have lost rats because of things like that. A closed rattery is not a red flag.
Black Wolf Rattery has a great blog post on it.
http://rat-breeder-confessions.blogspot.com/2015/03/closed-ratteries-why-this-isnt-red-flag.html?m=0

They should though be open and honest and willing to answer any questions you have.
I more meant at least via photos. I would be too paranoid to adopt from someone that didn't say much about or have any photos of the environment. But I've always managed to fulfill my rat needs just using the rescues in the area as there are lots and they often even have babies. Not so much right now I notice. BUT, this post is from 2007 anyway, so, yeah.
 
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