:roll: Ok, yes I did, I potato chipped. The same way many others have. It went like this, "hun let's go to the petstore and look at litter boxes and cages, (been craving one of those fabulous FN's) for the rats." Little while later he says, "I read on your post that you were thinking of boy rats in the future, I wonder if I'd be ok holding one," (cause of the knuts) We walk over he says "look, this is a male store, I'm gonna hold one. You want to too" Duh! So we talked to the associate, who brought out a blue hooded dumbo for us, my husband held him, then passed him to me, the rat snuggled right down and started licking my hand,... I was done. He of course then got spooked by a passing dog and fear pooped on me. Omg, it smelled, worse then anything my lil babies have done, even for fear poop. I looked at my husband and he shook his head and said "but we have girls at home." Well, the poop made me curious about their diet and it was also apparent in spite of how friendly he was, that they were not handled in that store. (Petsmart, we have 4 within a 15 min drive) Yep, you guessed, bird seed. No lab blocks, just seed, could have been a hamster mix at one point, but I couldn't even see the pellets, all I could see were seeds, corn and sunflower seeds. The rat himself, showed signs of poor diet aside form the poo, he was very coarse, and his fur thin, and he smelled like pee. Well, we left without him, but I couldn't stop thinking about him. We went home and strait to the shower and washed the clothes we were wearing immediately to get rid of anything we might have picked up in the store. That was Sunday. This morning I told myself that If I went back there today and he was still there that I would take him home. Sooo, when I brought him home today, I gave him a bath first thing. The grime shlaffed off, and I scrubbed his tail with a toothbrush. It turned the water rusted brown. He seemed alright with the whole thing. Just walking on me he shredded me though. He needs his nails clipped and I am just not sure how to do that. I do not know how old he is, I am guessing 4 to 6 mos. They didn't know either. I sat with him for a while, after investigated me a bit he sat down and bruxed for 10 mins! So right now, he is in another room, as far from the girls as I can get him, and he will stay there for his quaranteen and until his neuter. We don't know when yet but I have found a vet that will do it for $75.00, who says they have done it before and do treat rats. He sure is a cutie :wink: oh and his name is Gullinbersti.