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Ok, so I'm going to try and give as much information as possible and yes, it's a bit long, but I want people to know everything.

On January 18th 2023, my pet rat Enderman (female, a little over 1 yrs old) went in for surgery to have a tumor removed near her back right leg, possibly on one of her teets.

Surgery went well, so I was told. I picked her up, she was extremely loopy & disoriented. I was told she would bounce back within 24 hours. (Given my experience with a previous rat and this same surgery, something felt "off")

Now let's rewind to a week BEFORE surgery, the lady I saw was NOT familiar with rodents, she kept running out to ask my questions to another vet tech (who worked along side the doctor who performs the surgeries) instead of just having that vet tech come in to talk with me.

Before leaving she told me that on the night before surgery, that I need to take away her food at 10:00pm (drop off was at 8:00am next day) ... This sounded weird to me, since rats do not vomit, so I didn't understand this condition, but figured "they know best" so followed it. (Probably why I am in the mess I am in now)

Back to AFTER I take her home from surgery.

She is not eating or drinking. She is extremely lethargic and doesn't move around at all. She has been secreting porphyrin non-stop from her eyes & nose. She barely grooms herself. All typical signs something is WRONG and when a rat is about to pass on.

This goes on for 2 days, I decided on the 2nd day to put her back in with her cage mate (I typically quarantine for 2 weeks after surgery) in hopes she was just needing a friend. No change.

I have stopped putting the ointment they provided for her suture as it was only recommended to keep her from messing with it (she hasn't even acknowledged it is there).

I'm finally off work for the weekend so I can dedicate my time to Enderman and I REALLY could use some help!

For starters, I have a huge suspicion there is an infection somewhere, whether its respiratory or not, I need to get antibiotics in her - After paying for this $500 surgery, I can't afford to take her in (I'm already upset the vet I took her to for surgery tried telling me to take her somewhere else that was $200 just to walk in the door, I feel the vet I took her to should be liable for after care ... but that's another rant and I digress) ... I need to find over-the-counter antibiotics that I can give her.

I know people on this forum are going to get upset at this next part, but I'm desperate (I also DO NOT RECOMMEND ANYONE ELSE DO THIS!!!) ... I found an old (human) prescription for Penicillin, and shaved off a couple tiny chunks, dissolved it into water and gave it to her, just to get some sorta antibiotic in her until morning when stores are open.

She is also not eating, I have purchased Delectables (cat food treat, it has a pudding like consistancy) and put it in a syringe and have been giving her that - She doesn't take it willingly, I do have to put it far enough into her mouth and slowly squeeze it in, but she does swallow it! I however do not know how much to feed her, and how often in a day?
The Delectables package is 14 grams, I'm using the Chicken & Veggies flavor (my other rat seems to love it). I have seen other posts mention Ensure, is there a certain flavor to get, would that work better for her calorie intake?)

Now for water ... I'm using another syringe to get water into her - Again, I do not know a daily amount, and how often, etc? However she does seem a lot more willing to drink.

That's basically where I need all the help:

  • Where to get an over-the-counter antibiotic for a rat. (Plus any info on how much/often given)
  • How much food she needs in a single day, and how often.
  • How much water she needs in a single day, and how often.

Since this is all needing to be done by me, and not by her willingly I'm at a loss on this information, I've never had a rat just ... not eat or drink when they WERE perfectly healthy prior to surgery.

I am willing to fight to keep her alive until she does "bounce" back, because this isn't an issue like old age, she was 100% healthy (aside from a small tumor) prior. She could have easily lived another full year with that tumor, I just wanted to extend her quality of life in that year.

I've provided pictures of Enderman, and a photo of the set up I used to give her Penicillin, food & water. I do also have video of how she is acting upon request, I can email the video.
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Yikes! That sounds scary. Pedialyte can be purchased just about anywhere and re hydrates them. You can give it to her every couple of hours. You can try texting a breeder about your rats problems, they can usually help. Baytril can be given for respiratory problems. Childrens tylonel is a good pain medication. You can try soaking their fortified pellets in water to make a mush. If she doesn’t improve, euthanasia is probably the kindest option. I wish you guys the best of luck! 💛

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Enderman has sadly crossed the Rainbow Bridge at 12:30am last night, sorry I didn't update sooner, its been really tough on me, I tried everything in my power to prevent this.

She did not go quickly, it took a total of 4½ hours for her to pass - Including several seizures, convulsions and so on ... She tried to hang on until the bitter end 😔

Thank you again to all offered their words of wisdom.
Im so sorry. She knew it was time. That’s really tough to see them suffer. Here is a poem that may help. I hope your doing okay. We’re all here for you. 💛🐀💖🌈
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