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Hi guys,

In short: I have two entire male rats, both unsocialised as young and unfriendly towards me, looking for ways to curb this.

In long: I bought 2 male rats from a pet store in my town, I didn't know it was bad to do this at the time. The worker in the pet store told me showed me a large older male rat who had been at the store for 4 months, I took him out of pity. I also bought a younger male housed in the same cage as him. This was 6 months ago. (Pet store had no idea of their ages, guessed 1 year and 8 months, this was 6 months ago so Vaughn would now be 18 months and Sprout just over a year old.) I now know the pet store had no contact or socialising with the rats, a likely reason why they aren't keen on me. Sprout will let me hold him, but he is very squirmy and doesn't like to sit with me. Vaughn will not let me hold him and HATES being out of his cage.
The reason I am writing this is because Vaughn just attacked Sprout over some food, he is extremely protective and dominant over him. He has bit me twice.
I have never heard Sprout make a noise like he just did :,(
Is there any hope for my rats?
I want them to be like other people's rats, friendly and tame.
I'm growing tired of their behaviour.

~Please let me know of any tips or advice you have for how to make my rats love me!~
 

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It might be harder because they haven't had much human contact but maybe the Immersion Training sticky by Rat Daddy would help... but definitely don't give up hope.
 

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Yeah, look up for the immersion thread; I bet that should help in your particular case. I am sure that you'll be able to tame them at least a bit so they stop biting. Best of lucks!
 

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I can vouch for the immersion training, my most aggressive rat became my heart rat! You might want to invest in some thick gloves and prepare to cover up well when you work with your biter.

Neutering is also an option, it could be quite effective if your rats start to fight seriously, causing injuries to one another.
 

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thank you so much for your replies! i appreciate it a lot. will be researching immersion training
 

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There is deffinetly hope for changing your rat's behaviour, it may seem very difficult and a long process, but it will work. I had two boys that did'nt get along well AT ALL. Mainly because one felt insecure next to the new rat, I would suggest bringing them out into a play area with no other smells. You could sanitize the area, wash to floor with some vinegar/water solution and it will help kill off the smells, which also helps them not smell eachother as much. You can start by feeding them both yogurt off two separate spoons near eachother, that way they get used to being beside one another. Having another person near to seperate them from eachother is ideal as well. If possible you could get them to eat off the same spoon, and if one becomes food agressive, use a spray bottle (obviously a clean one without chemicals used in it previously) and spray the one with the bad behaviour. It helped somewhat with my rats, they would get in a fight, and I'd spray and they'd be too busy grooming themselves to care about the other rat. Stress bonding is also something I've done, I put both rats in a tub of water, get a helping had of course and bathe both rats at the same time, they actually can start cuddling eachother because they become stressed out and seek another to help them. Also, not saying you HAVE to do all this, but trying these small excessive could improve their bond. It took my boys 3 months to become somewhat passive with one another, and realize not to attack on site. Also always have a pair of gloves with you in case they do fight, dont go in with just bare hands, I've made that mistake once.
 
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