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roundup of my mischief (and new rats!)

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#1 · (Edited)
Having started so many sad threads in the rainbow bridge section over the last few months, I was long overdue for a happy thread. I've had couple of new arrivals this week, and I've realised that I didn't introduce Sandy and Jack when I got them in the spring.

My current mischief comprises:

George (champagne hooded,18 months), sadly now my oldest rat and the last of my original group of pet store boys. George has bad eyesight and has always been a bit of a loner, but at the same time he has usually been the first rat to sleep with any newcomers during intros. When he was younger he could sometimes react unpredictably to other rats because (I suspect) he was not able to read their body language, and until recently he really did not like to be handled. However, he was ill over the summer and now gets a lot of handling to administer his ongoing meds, and he has mellowed a lot as a result. He is now quite a calm old man, who seems to quite enjoy snuggling in my clothes and being stroked.

Jimmy (white, 9 months) came to me at the start of July, having lived for six months in the pet store and then moved to their adoption centre when he was too old to sell. Further sadness was to come with the loss of his companion Bill after only a few weeks in their forever home. At first Jimmy was extremely skittish and he also struggled to fit in with the other boys. I thought he was terrified of Jack and Sandy despite them not being at all aggressive towards him, however I eventually concluded that Jimmy had aspirations of dominance but was intimidated by Jack and Sandy being vastly bigger than him and confused by their apparent indifference to his posturing. In no time at all Jimmy had learned from the other boys that handling was fine, and he is now perfectly friendly.

Jack and Sandy (7 months) were my first rats from a breeder, and came to me at 8 weeks old. What a difference in confidence and friendliness compared to the pet store kittens! Jack (black) was a big lad even then and he has kept up the pace ever since - his is now over 800g. I knew he was very muscular but I was worried that he must be overweight and consulted their breeder for advice. I decided that I would still enter him in my local rat show in the summer to let the breeder see him and get comments from the judges. Jack won a special prize for "buffest boi", and the pet judge described him as "hench" and in "superb condition", so that answered that concern! Despite being enormous, Jack is a total softie and likes nothing more than being rolled onto his back to have his tummy tickled. I think he is dominant in the mischief by sheer size, as I've never seen him show any kind of aggression toward the other rats.

Sandy (cinnamon) is Jack's half brother, and whilst not as large as Jack he is still a big, muscular boy. He is another big softie, and is extremely affectionate and licky. The top of the cage holds a special fascination for Sandy, and any time the door is open for any length of time you can guarantee he will make for the roof. Despite this, he has yet to work out a way to get back down without assistance! Sandy loves his brother and is his number two in the dominance structure, again without any discernable effort.

And finally, just arrived this week are two juveniles from another local breeder. Monty and Ike (so named because they were born on the anniversary of D-Day) are a black Berkshire and a black variegated respectively, from the same litter, and as you would expect of well bred rats they are friendly and inquisitive youngsters. I got to choose them from eight available bucks, and decided on Monty because he climbed back onto me of his own accord after their breeder had lifted him off, while Ike fell off my shoulder right into the palm of my hand which seemed like a good omen! Ike is the bolder of the pair, and I have started intros today. All has been going well, touch wood!

If anyone has made it through all of that you will be ready for some blurry movement pictures from the intros cage!
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#4 ·
What a great bunch of boys and you can certainly tell who Jack is, like a rat bouncer :)

Also see Jimmy just chilling there wondering why the others are so excited, reminds me of one of my boys here - looks identical!

Enjoyed seeing their pics after hearing a bit about them.

Wonder if you can help actually - in your second pic i note one of those animal pen things in the background and i for the life of me cannot find one as i dont know what i'm looking for but would find it handy to have more controlled time out of the cage than always giving them free range, wonder if you could let me know what its called or where to get one? That one looks ideal as its smooth sided - i've only seen ones they could be up and over in a fraction of a second. Want one big enough i can sit in it with them ideally!

Oh and the cage roof thing yeah thats a nightmare, straight up there and then "how will i get down from here" - terrifies me in case they get spooked if you go to help them. One found his way onto the top of the water bottle on one of the sides of the cage with the fewer bars going across, that wasn't a comfortable moment for him or for me!
 
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Wonder if you can help actually - in your second pic i note one of those animal pen things in the background and i for the life of me cannot find one as i dont know what i'm looking for but would find it handy to have more controlled time out of the cage than always giving them free range, wonder if you could let me know what its called or where to get one? That one looks ideal as its smooth sided - i've only seen ones they could be up and over in a fraction of a second. Want one big enough i can sit in it with them ideally!

Oh and the cage roof thing yeah thats a nightmare, straight up there and then "how will i get down from here" - terrifies me in case they get spooked if you go to help them. One found his way onto the top of the water bottle on one of the sides of the cage with the fewer bars going across, that wasn't a comfortable moment for him or for me!
The free roam pen is made of Songmics panels via Amazon. They make a pet playpen which has slightly taller side panels but it is far too small to be useful for rats and quite pricy for what you get, whereas if you buy a cube storage unit you can assemble the panels however you like and it works out much better value. I think I bought two storage units and some extra connectors and have made them into a 7ft by 7ft by 3ft high pen with loads of spare parts. They easily come apart to let me step in and out of the pen when the rats are in their cage. The rats could easily chew through the panels but I've never had any problem with that, maybe because the free roam area is fairly large and their cage is inside it, and therefore they are not particularly motivated to get out.

I currently have a further problem with the cage roof situation. There is a small inaccessible leak under my bath which is directly above the cage and as the ceiling was getting wet and I have not had time to fix it yet I've poked a hole in the ceiling and placed a tray on top of the cage to catch the drips. This is a handy temporary solution which prevents further damage to the ceiling, but it does mean there is very inviting rat-sized hole in the ceiling about 7 inches above the cage providing ready access to the pipe space. I therefore need to take special precautions to make sure they don't get on top of the cage at the moment!
 
#6 ·
Thanks Keith that's really helpful - good shout on the cube units i'll do exactly that! It could also come in handy as a means to block off certain areas when they are allowed to roam a bit more freely. This is one of of the things with rats - they're ingenious and can often find away around any restrictions we put in place for them.

I remember when we had our first rats it seemed impossible for them to squeeze through the bars.. until one day there was only one rat in the cage - what a panic that caused. I searched high and low and no sign, sealed up the room and popped a camera on the cage and she came back.. from where, i couldn't tell at the time. I saw her make her way back in the cage like some kind of weird limbo dancer. The temporary fix til they got a bit bigger was chicken wire on the outside of the cage.

As i was out getting that, i had the camera situated in the direction she came from and there was a mini fridge in the room - she'd found it cosy to get into the back where the compressor was and hung out there - i found treats stashed and all sorts when i got to review the footage.

So anything which helps them be more secure whilst out and about is invaluable -so thanks for the tip!

Totally get you about the leak and the possibility of the rats getting through that, wonder if you can put something solid in the tray temporarily if they're out which reaches the ceiling to hard block the hole.. sure you've found a way around it for now anyway.

One more story whilst i'm here relating to cage roofs. I remember popping a tube of malt paste on top of a cage some time ago, just didn't think much of it til next time i went to give them some.. picked up the tube, it felt quite light, i was surprised.

Then i saw the 2 inch hole in the underside of the tube and the big gap where the malt paste had been! Cunning little devils hah!
 
#7 ·
Kit arrived today Keith - they loved it.

Wedged it right up against the cage opening (took the door off - getting Michael Caine vibes saying that!) so they couldnt access the outside of the cage and climb it. When i was sat down they were climbing all over me, running around the back of my chasing and play fighting Worked an absolute charm so thanks for the idea! It would have been more spacious but i ran out of the joint things between the panels. I might get a second kit to extend it further in one direction so theres more spac but it was about 1mx1.5m to begin with and three high so they definitely couldnt find a way out. Two would be pushing it when they climb on me!

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#8 ·
I'm glad! I love sitting in the pen with them and having them climb on me, but with a big group it is hard to keep track on where they all are so I am absolutely paranoid about moving in case I squash someone, and they can pretty much hold me hostage!

You can buy a pack of spare connectors although they are disproportionately expensive compared to the actual units. I set mine set up three-high all around the free roam area and four-high around the back and sides of the cage, with a single line of them across the bottom of the cage to prevent them going under the cage. I then block up the remaining gaps with a couple of sheets of cardboard, including a big one I wedge in on the left hand side to make it harder for the rats to climb up the outside of the cage. Even if they did manage to get under the cage they would still be inside the enclosure. To let them in and out I just take the doors off the bottom right cage so they can either climb down on the wine rack or run down a drainpipe ramp I have added since this photo was taken.
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The rats in this old picture were my late boys Basil, Harry and Tom, with current boy George just visible behind the box.