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my baby rat bernard is about 1.5-2 months old. i noticed that the rats at the pet shops from the saem litter are alot bigger that he is and he has been getting plenty of food. also when ever id give him food while he was out of his cage he'd chew a bit and drop it and i always assumed it was bcuz he was way to hyper to settle down....tonite however i ws looking at his adorable face and noticed that 1 tooth ( of the top 2) was way longer than the other. so i pushed up his cheek and found that it looked so much longer bcuz the other one was missing! and the one that i could see was crooked and wobbly...i cut up some ham graped and sunflower seeds into tiny pieces so he could eat them and later found the last top tooth on the couch...so now he has no top teeth!
i dont know how this happened, for how long he had been suffering from it and now im worried and have some questions

will they grow back?
is this an idication of bigger health concerns?
how should i prepare his food from now on?
and since he can no longer wear them down and his bottom teeth are really colse to his palet. i should probably sdchedual a visit to the vets to have them cut? if this is possible???

please answer...ive never encountered anything like this of heard of it and am not sure what to do...
 

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considering that rat's teeth are constantly growing i would assume that they will grow back and i would take him to the vet to have the bottom teeth trimmed (it is possible) and also i would ask the vet about the top teeth LoL i am just guessing
 

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Interesting. I'm new to rats but there are some common assumptions you can make with tooth loss.

He may be suffering from gum disease, which can lead to further infection and kill him if it is not treated with antibiotics - or such is the case with humans. If it can happen to us I imagine it can happen to them.

Tooth loss can also come as a result of malnutrition in humans and in other animals, or simply old age.

For preparation of food I have heard other members talk about feeding younger rats foods which have been mashed, baby food, and yoghurt.

For growing back, well, yes, rats teeth do keep on growing forever, but they only ever get one set, so if the tooth has actually completely come out I don't know if it will grow back. But yet again, I'm new to rats.

Whether or not it is possible to have his teeth pared down, you need to schedule a visit to your vet to make sure that he is not suffering from a bad infection.
 

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Malocclusion (crooked teeth) can also come around because of trauma - have you ever dropped Bernard? His teeth will more than likely grow back, unless the root of the incisors came out with his teeth - though, I doubt this happened.

You need to have Bernard looked at by an exotics specialist, and soon. If his teeth continue to have issues, you might have to either learn from the vet how to trim teeth at home, or bring Bernard in every once and a while to have them done there. Though, if teeth trimmings are highly upsetting for Bernie, which I'm sure they will be, you might want to look into having his incisors surgically removed.

As for foods... baby food is great. Can you get your hands on a coffee bean grinder? The smaller ones are usually under $25. If you can, you can grind up some of his lab blocks (P.S. - the only good brands of lab blocks are Harlan Tekland and Mazuri - HT is the best) and add the powder from that to some baby food or something else that's softer - that way he's still getting all of the nutrients and vitamins he'd usually get. You should also pick up some soy milk and baby oatmeal/cereal. Steamed, mashed carrots would be another great addition. Here are some more ideas:

Fruits
Vegetables
Ensure or Boost
Soy milk
Pumpkin (canned pumpkin, NOT canned pumpkin pie filling!)
Papaya
Hard-boiled eggs
 

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thank you so much for all the tips especially those on food
i hadnt evn thought of lab blocks and coffee grinder ( can a coffee grinder grind vegies and things or only dry foods)
actually come to think of it, a few nioghts ago he was realyl hyper and was jumping onto anything that was near him...evn the coffee table in the living room from the couch and he hit the ground a few times...i moved the table away and he was still trying so i put him away for his safety. could that cause them to break from the root?
also i was checking his mouth after the second came out and there are no pieces of tooth sticking out, it is only gums
 

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what color are his gums? they should be a decent pinkish color. dark purple-red or pale white are indicators of bad gums, and possibly gum disease causing tooth rot = vet visit.

i would get his bottom teeth trimmed since his top ones are no longer there to keep his bottom ones from poking the top of his mouth. you can use guillotine style dog nail clippers, but it would be best to just take him to a vet.

i would def try the oatmeal and mashed veggies and baby food. poor thing, i hope he's okay!
 

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You don't necessarily have to grind up the veggies (coffee grinders are just for dry things). Just make sure to shred/chop everything into small pieces for him.

If he landed head/mouth first on the floor, it definitely could have caused him some harm.

Where do you get Bernard?
 

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i got him from a petshop
he was sick when i got him and if the temp in my room goes doown he starts sneezing bad, my other rats are not that bad so im suspecting he has a weaker immune system and he is infected with myco, other than that no noticable heath probs
but his gums seem fine, maybe a tad red on the side where his last tooth fell out
but what could cause gum disease in a rat?
the comp wires were found chewed so maybe he got some wire in his gums but ive been checking everyday and he doesnt have abseses or sores or bleeding
i bought complete diet pellets and ive been soaking them in water for him and ive been giving him shredded food( fresh) alogn w/ it.i still gove him seed mix incase he feels up to chewing them

i think i will scedual a vet visit for next week or whenevr available asap
i hope thet there are vets around here experieced in more than just euthanising small animals and actually treating them
 

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I trim my boy's teeth at home, and it's not as hard as it sounds. I have a nail clippers that I use on their teeth only, and replace it if I think it's getting dull. I only discovered I needed to trim when one of my boys' teeth got so long he lost weight from not eating. I got all the info online (ratguide, I believe) and had my vet check my handiwork.

Oh, and have the vet check for mouth abcesses; antibiotics should take care of anything like that.
 
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