How do u figure rats are deathly allergic to pine and cedar? I have seen lots of rats and other small animals kept on both and they didn't just up and die quickly from it. People have used it for years. I know the oils can cause respiratory infections/problems, but thats it. I know they can die from this but it doesnt mean pine and cedar will automatically kill your rat. I am not saying you should use pine or cedar, but you shouldn't say things that aren't completely true. Just explain the dangers and that their are lots of other choices for bedding out there.ratwings said:Anything from aspen to shredded newspaper will do as bedding. Never use pine or Cedar as bedding. Rats are deathly allergic to the oils of cedar and pine. Getting your water bottle to stay on your cage all depends on what type of cage and water bottle you have. The cleaning also has to do with what type of cage you have. Empty the cage the of bedding and replace any boxes or hammocks. Also clean any toys in there. Wipe down any flat areas and balconies. Your cage will be pretty clean after that!
Yes, but people aren't stupid, and it's just as irresponsible to embellish the dangers as it is to not warn them. The government likes to do this (drugs, war, recycling, etc, etc - insert your favorite GW lie here), and none of us really appreciate it. Spread truth, not scare tactics. Also it doesn't seem to be as simple as all that - certain types of kiln dried pine are ok as the phenols have been driven out by the drying process.Tails said:hjkaga, although Pine and Cedar phenols wont "up and kill" your rat, most people wont bother to change, if they can get away with just using pine/cedar shavings. A lot of people also dont consider taking their rat(s) to a vet (I always get the comment from people "you take your rat to the vet??!" and I answer, "well, yes, wouldnt you take your dog to the vet if it were sick?"). Its better, in my opinion(!), to just tell people that its highly toxic to rats, which almost forces the rat owner to look for an alternate bedding source from the beginning.
Respiritory infections can be painful to your rat too.